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	<description>The official podcast of MovieZeal.com, where film is always best discussed under the gentle influence of fine wine (as fine as $10 will get you). Each week Evan, Heather, and Luke pick a theme, discuss a theatrical release based on that theme, pop the cork and drink a wine that fits said theme, and finally subject one another to The Gauntlet, where forcing others to watch painful films nets you fabulous prizes. There is not anything else on the internets like it (literally).</description>
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		<title>By: water fountains direct</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-286954</link>
		<dc:creator>water fountains direct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2010 05:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can&#039;t stand mr james these days.  bigger ball hog than kobe.</description>
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		<title>By: Alexander Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-8779</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good review; I read it last night.

Ultimately it&#039;s all about Cagney and Walsh. 

I must admit, &lt;i&gt;DOA&lt;/i&gt; didn&#039;t quite fully captivate me when I first watched it many, many years ago (I think I was eleven or so when I first saw it). Yet when I viewed it this past winter at the Castro with a crowd of raucous noir lovers, I found myself more or less loving it, even if the plot seems to wane in making sense the more closely you look and think about it. Eddie Muller told the crowd afterwards, &quot;I wallow in crime dramas and complex noirs and I write crime novels... And I can&#039;t tell you what the hell is going on in that movie. It&#039;s a film that favors momentum over coherence.&quot; That said, it&#039;s an interesting film; Rudolph Mate was an excellent cinematographer who turned out to be a strong director as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good review; I read it last night.</p>
<p>Ultimately it&#8217;s all about Cagney and Walsh. </p>
<p>I must admit, <i>DOA</i> didn&#8217;t quite fully captivate me when I first watched it many, many years ago (I think I was eleven or so when I first saw it). Yet when I viewed it this past winter at the Castro with a crowd of raucous noir lovers, I found myself more or less loving it, even if the plot seems to wane in making sense the more closely you look and think about it. Eddie Muller told the crowd afterwards, &#8220;I wallow in crime dramas and complex noirs and I write crime novels&#8230; And I can&#8217;t tell you what the hell is going on in that movie. It&#8217;s a film that favors momentum over coherence.&#8221; That said, it&#8217;s an interesting film; Rudolph Mate was an excellent cinematographer who turned out to be a strong director as well.</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-8634</link>
		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consider it brought.  I&#039;m tempted to write a whole post, but I must weigh the desire to write at more extensively with the desire to have someone besides my wife read my thoughts.  Decisions, decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider it brought.  I&#8217;m tempted to write a whole post, but I must weigh the desire to write at more extensively with the desire to have someone besides my wife read my thoughts.  Decisions, decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Derrick</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-8618</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You better bring your A game, cause I&#039;m getting ready to rip DOA a new one. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You better bring your A game, cause I&#8217;m getting ready to rip DOA a new one. <img src='http://www.moviezeal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-8617</link>
		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, you just made a big mistake.  Now I know to be all over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you just made a big mistake.  Now I know to be all over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Derrick</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-8611</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m doing the DOA piece, G. You&#039;d better just stay off the site that day. It&#039;s not going to be pretty, my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m doing the DOA piece, G. You&#8217;d better just stay off the site that day. It&#8217;s not going to be pretty, my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew  S.</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-8604</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew  S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was only making fun of his character.  Edmund O&#039;Brien was a fine actor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was only making fun of his character.  Edmund O&#8217;Brien was a fine actor.</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-8603</link>
		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys can bash O&#039;Brien all you want, but when the DOA review comes along, somebody better praise him big time.  And I mean big time.  He is fantastic in that movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys can bash O&#8217;Brien all you want, but when the DOA review comes along, somebody better praise him big time.  And I mean big time.  He is fantastic in that movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew  S.</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-8601</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew  S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word has it that Cagney did not want to do another gangster picture at this late date 1949 but he worked out a gimmick with the director Walsh to make the project more interesting...&quot;why don&#039;t we make Cody a psycho?&quot; Cagney allegedly suggested.  Walsh agreed, the script was rewritten and voila!  An American classic that defies any genre label.
   What I love in the movie is that smug rat fink Edmund O&#039;Brien grabbing a rifle at the end to pick off Cody on top of the tank and then when Cody fires his pistol down onto a valve or something and the fire starts, big brave Edmund drops the rifle and runs like a rabbit.
   My hero!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word has it that Cagney did not want to do another gangster picture at this late date 1949 but he worked out a gimmick with the director Walsh to make the project more interesting&#8230;&#8221;why don&#8217;t we make Cody a psycho?&#8221; Cagney allegedly suggested.  Walsh agreed, the script was rewritten and voila!  An American classic that defies any genre label.<br />
   What I love in the movie is that smug rat fink Edmund O&#8217;Brien grabbing a rifle at the end to pick off Cody on top of the tank and then when Cody fires his pistol down onto a valve or something and the fire starts, big brave Edmund drops the rifle and runs like a rabbit.<br />
   My hero!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe F.</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-8567</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I really love this one!  Good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-8548</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Oedipal complexes?&quot;  Repressed homoeroticism?  Freudian psychoanalysis?&quot;

Yep, Luke it&#039;s all here in WHITE HEAT and then some.  I grew up with this film and have seen it countless times through the year&#039;s as Cagney&#039;s spectacular performance is a lure alone.  Beautiful work here Evan--another stellar review in this fascinating Movie Zeal exclusive during the &quot;summer heat.&quot;
    The top of the world scene at the end and the scene where Cagney goes berzerk in prison upon hearing of his mother&#039;s murder are classics, not to mention near the beginning where the man in the trunk asks for some aire and Cody empties his revolver to give him some. (but you gave a better description of that scene in your review)
   This is one of those films that&#039;s fun to watch over and over--it&#039;s deliriously entertaining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oedipal complexes?&#8221;  Repressed homoeroticism?  Freudian psychoanalysis?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep, Luke it&#8217;s all here in WHITE HEAT and then some.  I grew up with this film and have seen it countless times through the year&#8217;s as Cagney&#8217;s spectacular performance is a lure alone.  Beautiful work here Evan&#8211;another stellar review in this fascinating Movie Zeal exclusive during the &#8220;summer heat.&#8221;<br />
    The top of the world scene at the end and the scene where Cagney goes berzerk in prison upon hearing of his mother&#8217;s murder are classics, not to mention near the beginning where the man in the trunk asks for some aire and Cody empties his revolver to give him some. (but you gave a better description of that scene in your review)<br />
   This is one of those films that&#8217;s fun to watch over and over&#8211;it&#8217;s deliriously entertaining.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Harrington</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-8540</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keeping in mind that I haven&#039;t actually gotten around to seeing this one...

It sounds like this one is pretty noir thematically. Oedipal complexes? Repressed homoeroticism? Freudian psychoanalysis is one of the first things that comes  to mind when I think &quot;noir.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeping in mind that I haven&#8217;t actually gotten around to seeing this one&#8230;</p>
<p>It sounds like this one is pretty noir thematically. Oedipal complexes? Repressed homoeroticism? Freudian psychoanalysis is one of the first things that comes  to mind when I think &#8220;noir.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Derrick</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-8538</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Derrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor, poor Edmund O&#039;Brien. I didn&#039;t even mention him here, partially on purpose. I found the undercover detective subplot woefully uninteresting in light of Cagney&#039;s character and performance. Even though all of that takes up a majority of the screen time, you could really care less. 

You make some good points, G, about Jarrett transferring his libido to Edmund&#039;s character. I hadn&#039;t thought about that, but it makes perfect sense. There is an undercurrent of homoeroticism between the two, isn&#039;t there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor, poor Edmund O&#8217;Brien. I didn&#8217;t even mention him here, partially on purpose. I found the undercover detective subplot woefully uninteresting in light of Cagney&#8217;s character and performance. Even though all of that takes up a majority of the screen time, you could really care less. </p>
<p>You make some good points, G, about Jarrett transferring his libido to Edmund&#8217;s character. I hadn&#8217;t thought about that, but it makes perfect sense. There is an undercurrent of homoeroticism between the two, isn&#8217;t there?</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-8532</link>
		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, this really bears absolutely no relation to the noir genre at all.  It&#039;s a gangster flick, pure and simple.

I don&#039;t think that Verna is a femme fatale at all, because you&#039;re right that he doesn&#039;t have much of a sexual connection with her.  The femme fatale here is Edmund O&#039;Brien (soon to get his due in DOA) as the new object of Cody&#039;s desire.  Just as a noir hero gets in trouble when he falls in love with a femme fatale, Cody gets in trouble when he transfers his libido from Ma to Edmund.

&quot;He&#039;s my partner, 50-50.&quot;
&quot;Cody, I never knew you to go 50-50 with anyone.&quot;
&quot;I went 50-50 with Ma, didn&#039;t I?&quot;

That tells you everything you need to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, this really bears absolutely no relation to the noir genre at all.  It&#8217;s a gangster flick, pure and simple.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that Verna is a femme fatale at all, because you&#8217;re right that he doesn&#8217;t have much of a sexual connection with her.  The femme fatale here is Edmund O&#8217;Brien (soon to get his due in DOA) as the new object of Cody&#8217;s desire.  Just as a noir hero gets in trouble when he falls in love with a femme fatale, Cody gets in trouble when he transfers his libido from Ma to Edmund.</p>
<p>&#8220;He&#8217;s my partner, 50-50.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Cody, I never knew you to go 50-50 with anyone.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I went 50-50 with Ma, didn&#8217;t I?&#8221;</p>
<p>That tells you everything you need to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/white-heat/comment-page-1/#comment-8528</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice take on it, Evan. I watched this when I was quite young, so I wasn&#039;t really thinking that at the time. :)

But  yeah, definitely a Cagney film. Some day I would love to watch this and Yankee Doodle Dandy back-to-back. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice take on it, Evan. I watched this when I was quite young, so I wasn&#8217;t really thinking that at the time. <img src='http://www.moviezeal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But  yeah, definitely a Cagney film. Some day I would love to watch this and Yankee Doodle Dandy back-to-back. <img src='http://www.moviezeal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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