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		<title>By: [review]: The Third Man &#171; &#8230;yet made of stars</title>
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		<dc:creator>[review]: The Third Man &#171; &#8230;yet made of stars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 5, 2009   Cross-posted at: MovieZeal    United Kingdom, 1949 Directed By: Carol Reed Written By: Graham Greene Starring: Joseph Cotten, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Arguably, this distinction can be extended to almost all pre- and post-WWII crime dramas&quot; exactly and for our purposes I think the comparison really highlights what it is we&#039;re getting at when we think of film noir. It&#039;s an attitude almost as much as a style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Arguably, this distinction can be extended to almost all pre- and post-WWII crime dramas&#8221; exactly and for our purposes I think the comparison really highlights what it is we&#8217;re getting at when we think of film noir. It&#8217;s an attitude almost as much as a style.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Harrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent observations there, Craig -- I didn&#039;t really get into Holly as a symbol for the U.S. (though I briefly touched on it), but I agree with everything you say here. Arguably, this distinction can be extended to almost all pre- and post-WWII crime dramas -- the U.S. (and the rest of the world) lost its innocence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent observations there, Craig &#8212; I didn&#8217;t really get into Holly as a symbol for the U.S. (though I briefly touched on it), but I agree with everything you say here. Arguably, this distinction can be extended to almost all pre- and post-WWII crime dramas &#8212; the U.S. (and the rest of the world) lost its innocence.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/the-third-man/comment-page-1/#comment-9148</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that films noir mentions Casablanca because I like to think of Third Man as being on the same historical continuum as Casablanca, but the two films are divided by WWII, the same trauma that ripped apart the 20th century.

Casablanca is set on the eve of America&#039;s involvement and there is romance and a sense that America can make a difference and there is hope for the future.

The Third Man takes place after the horror of the war and we can see what a waste it was. America is not portrayed as a rescuing knight in shining armor (Rick Blaine) but a well meaning but blundering simpleton (Holly Martens) who causes more problems than he solves by trying to do the right thing.

Politically you can argue whether or not this country has continued to do the right thing, but either way you can&#039;t argue with that sense of doubt that creeped in after the war and has settled their. Casablanca takes place in a dangerous, but almost comfortingly binary black and white world where good and evil are clearly defined, but The Third Man exists in a fog of uncertainty and indecision.

For me, that moral uncertainty and ambiguity is a defining characteristic of noir.

But I&#039;m rambling. This is a terrific analysis of one of my favorite movies Luke. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that films noir mentions Casablanca because I like to think of Third Man as being on the same historical continuum as Casablanca, but the two films are divided by WWII, the same trauma that ripped apart the 20th century.</p>
<p>Casablanca is set on the eve of America&#8217;s involvement and there is romance and a sense that America can make a difference and there is hope for the future.</p>
<p>The Third Man takes place after the horror of the war and we can see what a waste it was. America is not portrayed as a rescuing knight in shining armor (Rick Blaine) but a well meaning but blundering simpleton (Holly Martens) who causes more problems than he solves by trying to do the right thing.</p>
<p>Politically you can argue whether or not this country has continued to do the right thing, but either way you can&#8217;t argue with that sense of doubt that creeped in after the war and has settled their. Casablanca takes place in a dangerous, but almost comfortingly binary black and white world where good and evil are clearly defined, but The Third Man exists in a fog of uncertainty and indecision.</p>
<p>For me, that moral uncertainty and ambiguity is a defining characteristic of noir.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m rambling. This is a terrific analysis of one of my favorite movies Luke. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: films noir</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/the-third-man/comment-page-1/#comment-8838</link>
		<dc:creator>films noir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Third Man ranks up there with Citizen Kane, Casablanca, The Maltese Falcon, and The Grapes of Wrath as one the great English-speaking films: a multi-faceted jewel of a picture.

Both director Carol Reed and cinematographer Robert Krasker define a dark and intriguing filmic universe.

The strength of the story is more than the engaging cavalcade of characters in a true human comedy, but the deep analysis of love and friendship, and the imperatives of conscience. Is loyalty out of passion stronger and more genuine than the loyalty of friendship, where the object of affection is amoral and commits despicable acts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Third Man ranks up there with Citizen Kane, Casablanca, The Maltese Falcon, and The Grapes of Wrath as one the great English-speaking films: a multi-faceted jewel of a picture.</p>
<p>Both director Carol Reed and cinematographer Robert Krasker define a dark and intriguing filmic universe.</p>
<p>The strength of the story is more than the engaging cavalcade of characters in a true human comedy, but the deep analysis of love and friendship, and the imperatives of conscience. Is loyalty out of passion stronger and more genuine than the loyalty of friendship, where the object of affection is amoral and commits despicable acts?</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/the-third-man/comment-page-1/#comment-8430</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, Sam, I was going to take you to task for not including &lt;i&gt;Hobson&#039;s Choice, The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover, Evergreen, Hindle Wakes, 10 Rillington Place&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;The Ruling Class&lt;/i&gt; but I thought the &lt;i&gt;Atonement&lt;/i&gt; dig was enough for one post. Haha. 

I must see &lt;i&gt;Witchfinder General&lt;/i&gt;; I&#039;ve heard so much about it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, Sam, I was going to take you to task for not including <i>Hobson&#8217;s Choice, The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover, Evergreen, Hindle Wakes, 10 Rillington Place</i> and <i>The Ruling Class</i> but I thought the <i>Atonement</i> dig was enough for one post. Haha. </p>
<p>I must see <i>Witchfinder General</i>; I&#8217;ve heard so much about it!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/the-third-man/comment-page-1/#comment-8409</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander, I know it is admittedly too soon to gage the worth of ATONEMENT in the full pantheon, but I felt it needed to be addressed, as bias against the most recent candidates would be rather unfair.  Is it REALLY better than BECKET?  Not necessarily, but this is the downside of numerical listings.  I applaud the fact that you&#039;ve seen nearly all of these, though I&#039;m not surprised.  There are a number of runner-ups here that sadly, were painful to exclude.

As always, thank for the kind words.

I did mistakenly leave off THREE essential British films from the list,(this always happens!!!) that must be there, the silent HINDLE WAKES (1927) and the 1934 musical EVERGREEN, as well as an absolute personal favorite THE COOK, THE THIEF, HIS WIFE AND HER LOVER (1990) by a director I am inexplicably smitten with, Peter Greenaway.  These three would go somewhere on the list, and the ones at 48, 49 and 50 would have to fall off.
    Of the ones that failed to place, I am saddest about LIFE IS SWEET, HOBSON&#039;S CHOICE, THUNDER ROCK, WITCHFINDER GENERAL, THE STARS LOOK DOWN, THE RULING CLASS, and the ultra-disturbing 10 RILLINGTON PLACE.

Talk about getting off the subject!?!  My apologies, I am often guilty of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander, I know it is admittedly too soon to gage the worth of ATONEMENT in the full pantheon, but I felt it needed to be addressed, as bias against the most recent candidates would be rather unfair.  Is it REALLY better than BECKET?  Not necessarily, but this is the downside of numerical listings.  I applaud the fact that you&#8217;ve seen nearly all of these, though I&#8217;m not surprised.  There are a number of runner-ups here that sadly, were painful to exclude.</p>
<p>As always, thank for the kind words.</p>
<p>I did mistakenly leave off THREE essential British films from the list,(this always happens!!!) that must be there, the silent HINDLE WAKES (1927) and the 1934 musical EVERGREEN, as well as an absolute personal favorite THE COOK, THE THIEF, HIS WIFE AND HER LOVER (1990) by a director I am inexplicably smitten with, Peter Greenaway.  These three would go somewhere on the list, and the ones at 48, 49 and 50 would have to fall off.<br />
    Of the ones that failed to place, I am saddest about LIFE IS SWEET, HOBSON&#8217;S CHOICE, THUNDER ROCK, WITCHFINDER GENERAL, THE STARS LOOK DOWN, THE RULING CLASS, and the ultra-disturbing 10 RILLINGTON PLACE.</p>
<p>Talk about getting off the subject!?!  My apologies, I am often guilty of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Coleman</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/the-third-man/comment-page-1/#comment-8407</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Atonement&lt;/i&gt; ahead of &lt;i&gt;Becket&lt;/i&gt;, Sam? For shame. I know you love the former passionately, though, and other very smart people do as well, just not me. :) 

A wonderful list, though. And an excellent reminder that I really need to see &lt;i&gt;Fires Were Started&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Love on the Dole&lt;/i&gt;. I&#039;m scared by the realization that I&#039;ve seen everything else in that list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Atonement</i> ahead of <i>Becket</i>, Sam? For shame. I know you love the former passionately, though, and other very smart people do as well, just not me. <img src='http://www.moviezeal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>A wonderful list, though. And an excellent reminder that I really need to see <i>Fires Were Started</i> and <i>Love on the Dole</i>. I&#8217;m scared by the realization that I&#8217;ve seen everything else in that list.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
		<link>http://www.moviezeal.com/the-third-man/comment-page-1/#comment-8401</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke, your review is here is one for posterity, regardless of the fact that the film you are considering is an undisputed masterpiece of world cinema.  
   To put my earlier comment of it being the greatest film in the history of British cinema, here is a copy of a list (top 60 choices) I submitted months ago to an e mail poll, specifing my choices of the greatest British films of all-time. Considering the iconic status of the films on this list, it just shows you what I think of THE THIRD MAN:

1.  The Third Man (Carol Reed, 1949)
2.  Kind Hearts and Coronets (Hamer, 1949)
3.  Great Expectations (Lean, 1946)
4.  A Clockwork Orange (Kubrick, 1971)
5.  Kes  (Loach, 1969)
6.  Black Narcissus (Powell, 1947)
7.  Richard III  (Olivier, 1955)
8.  The Lady Vanishes  (Hitchcock, 1938)
9.  2001:  A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)
10. Henry V  (Olivier, 1944)
11. Oliver Twist  (Lean, 1948)
12. Odd Man Out  (Reed, 1947)
13. Brief Encounter  (Lean, 1945)
14. The Thirty-Nine Steps  (Hitchcock, 1935)
15. Lawrence of Arabia  (Lean, 1962)
16. Dr. Strangelove  (Kurick, 1963)
17. Brighton Rock  (Boulting, 1947)
18. A Diary For Timothy  (Jennings, 1945)
19. Oh!  Mr. Porter  (Vanal, Will Hay, 1937)
20. A Matter of Life and Death (P/P, 1946)
21. Dead of Night  (Hamer, 1945)
22. The Thief of Baghdad (Powell, 1940)
23. Whisky Galore (Mackendrick, 1949)
24. A Christmas Carol (Hurst, 1951)
25. Henry V  (Branagh, 1989)
26. Hope and Glory  (Boorman, 1987)
27. Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (P/P, 1943)
28. Distant Voices Still Lives (Davies, 1988)
29. Pygmalion (Asquith, 1938)
30. If....(Anderson, 1968)
31. A Hard Day&#039;s Night  (Lester, 1964)
32. A Man For All Seasons  (Zinnemann, 1966)
33. Straw Dogs  (Peckinpah, 1971)
34. The Tomb of Ligeia  (Corman, 1964)
35. The Man in the White Suit (Mackendrick, 1951)
36. Rembrandt (1936, Korda)
37. Deep End (Skolimowski, 1970)
38. Colloden  (Watkins, 1964)
39. Fires Were Started  (Jennings, 1943)
40. The Red Shoes  (P/P, 1948)
41. Peeping Tom  (Powell, 1959)
42. The Wicker Man  (Hardy, 1973)
43. The True Glory (Reed, 1945)
44. Hamlet  (Olivier, 1948)
45. The Go-Between  (Losey, 1970)
46. Barry Lyndon  (Kubrick, 1975)
47. The Long Day Closes (Davies, 1992)
48. Atonement  (Wright, 2007)
49. The Lavender Hill Mob  (Crichton, 1951)
50. Becket  (Glenville, 1964)
51. My Fair Lady  (Cukpr, 1964)
52. The Tales of Hoffmann (P/P, 1951)
53. A Canterbury Tale  (P/P, 1944)
54. Oliver!  (Reed, 1968)
55. Love on the Dole  (Baxter, 1941)
56. The Horror of Dracula  (Fisher, 1958)
57. Gandhi  (Attenborough, 1982)
58. The Innocents  (Clayton, 1961)
59. Vera Drake  (Leigh, 2004)
60. The Man Who Knew Too Much (Hitchcock, 1934)

    Again, I want to thank you for your terrific consideration of the creme de la creme of British cinema.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke, your review is here is one for posterity, regardless of the fact that the film you are considering is an undisputed masterpiece of world cinema.<br />
   To put my earlier comment of it being the greatest film in the history of British cinema, here is a copy of a list (top 60 choices) I submitted months ago to an e mail poll, specifing my choices of the greatest British films of all-time. Considering the iconic status of the films on this list, it just shows you what I think of THE THIRD MAN:</p>
<p>1.  The Third Man (Carol Reed, 1949)<br />
2.  Kind Hearts and Coronets (Hamer, 1949)<br />
3.  Great Expectations (Lean, 1946)<br />
4.  A Clockwork Orange (Kubrick, 1971)<br />
5.  Kes  (Loach, 1969)<br />
6.  Black Narcissus (Powell, 1947)<br />
7.  Richard III  (Olivier, 1955)<br />
8.  The Lady Vanishes  (Hitchcock, 1938)<br />
9.  2001:  A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)<br />
10. Henry V  (Olivier, 1944)<br />
11. Oliver Twist  (Lean, 1948)<br />
12. Odd Man Out  (Reed, 1947)<br />
13. Brief Encounter  (Lean, 1945)<br />
14. The Thirty-Nine Steps  (Hitchcock, 1935)<br />
15. Lawrence of Arabia  (Lean, 1962)<br />
16. Dr. Strangelove  (Kurick, 1963)<br />
17. Brighton Rock  (Boulting, 1947)<br />
18. A Diary For Timothy  (Jennings, 1945)<br />
19. Oh!  Mr. Porter  (Vanal, Will Hay, 1937)<br />
20. A Matter of Life and Death (P/P, 1946)<br />
21. Dead of Night  (Hamer, 1945)<br />
22. The Thief of Baghdad (Powell, 1940)<br />
23. Whisky Galore (Mackendrick, 1949)<br />
24. A Christmas Carol (Hurst, 1951)<br />
25. Henry V  (Branagh, 1989)<br />
26. Hope and Glory  (Boorman, 1987)<br />
27. Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (P/P, 1943)<br />
28. Distant Voices Still Lives (Davies, 1988)<br />
29. Pygmalion (Asquith, 1938)<br />
30. If&#8230;.(Anderson, 1968)<br />
31. A Hard Day&#8217;s Night  (Lester, 1964)<br />
32. A Man For All Seasons  (Zinnemann, 1966)<br />
33. Straw Dogs  (Peckinpah, 1971)<br />
34. The Tomb of Ligeia  (Corman, 1964)<br />
35. The Man in the White Suit (Mackendrick, 1951)<br />
36. Rembrandt (1936, Korda)<br />
37. Deep End (Skolimowski, 1970)<br />
38. Colloden  (Watkins, 1964)<br />
39. Fires Were Started  (Jennings, 1943)<br />
40. The Red Shoes  (P/P, 1948)<br />
41. Peeping Tom  (Powell, 1959)<br />
42. The Wicker Man  (Hardy, 1973)<br />
43. The True Glory (Reed, 1945)<br />
44. Hamlet  (Olivier, 1948)<br />
45. The Go-Between  (Losey, 1970)<br />
46. Barry Lyndon  (Kubrick, 1975)<br />
47. The Long Day Closes (Davies, 1992)<br />
48. Atonement  (Wright, 2007)<br />
49. The Lavender Hill Mob  (Crichton, 1951)<br />
50. Becket  (Glenville, 1964)<br />
51. My Fair Lady  (Cukpr, 1964)<br />
52. The Tales of Hoffmann (P/P, 1951)<br />
53. A Canterbury Tale  (P/P, 1944)<br />
54. Oliver!  (Reed, 1968)<br />
55. Love on the Dole  (Baxter, 1941)<br />
56. The Horror of Dracula  (Fisher, 1958)<br />
57. Gandhi  (Attenborough, 1982)<br />
58. The Innocents  (Clayton, 1961)<br />
59. Vera Drake  (Leigh, 2004)<br />
60. The Man Who Knew Too Much (Hitchcock, 1934)</p>
<p>    Again, I want to thank you for your terrific consideration of the creme de la creme of British cinema.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda Wilding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda Wilding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely done, Mr. Harrington. 

THE THIRD MAN is truly a five star classic. It couldn&#039;t possibly be anything else. 

It&#039;s equal parts wicked and sublime.

When you have a dream cast like that (JOSEPH COTTEN, ORSON WELLES, ALIDA VALLI, TREVOR HOWARD) directed by SIR CAROL REED, it would be almost impossible for it to go wrong. 

As Luke so astutely pointed out, the cuckoo clock speech is sardonic brilliance.

ORSON pulls the rug out from everyone. HARRY LIME is the kind of part that every actor dreams of. The other characters and the audience are thinking about you even when you&#039;re NOT on screen - and only a charismatic genius like Mr. Welles could genuinely do this part justice. 

The tragedy, of course, is that JOSEPH COTTON&#039;S HOLLY doesn&#039;t get the girl. ALIDA VALLI&#039;S character has some sort of misplaced allegiance to HARRY. She&#039;ll never forgive HOLLY for what happened. But she doesn&#039;t understand what actually took place...and it&#039;s likely she wouldn&#039;t care anyway. 

She prefers to grieve for an amoral man who is blatantly unworthy of her. But with Harry&#039;s demise it will be much easier to convince herself that he really was a martyr. 

That last shot is brilliant. Hits you like a cold bucket of water directly across the face. 

That zither will haunt me for the rest of my days...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely done, Mr. Harrington. </p>
<p>THE THIRD MAN is truly a five star classic. It couldn&#8217;t possibly be anything else. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s equal parts wicked and sublime.</p>
<p>When you have a dream cast like that (JOSEPH COTTEN, ORSON WELLES, ALIDA VALLI, TREVOR HOWARD) directed by SIR CAROL REED, it would be almost impossible for it to go wrong. </p>
<p>As Luke so astutely pointed out, the cuckoo clock speech is sardonic brilliance.</p>
<p>ORSON pulls the rug out from everyone. HARRY LIME is the kind of part that every actor dreams of. The other characters and the audience are thinking about you even when you&#8217;re NOT on screen &#8211; and only a charismatic genius like Mr. Welles could genuinely do this part justice. </p>
<p>The tragedy, of course, is that JOSEPH COTTON&#8217;S HOLLY doesn&#8217;t get the girl. ALIDA VALLI&#8217;S character has some sort of misplaced allegiance to HARRY. She&#8217;ll never forgive HOLLY for what happened. But she doesn&#8217;t understand what actually took place&#8230;and it&#8217;s likely she wouldn&#8217;t care anyway. </p>
<p>She prefers to grieve for an amoral man who is blatantly unworthy of her. But with Harry&#8217;s demise it will be much easier to convince herself that he really was a martyr. </p>
<p>That last shot is brilliant. Hits you like a cold bucket of water directly across the face. </p>
<p>That zither will haunt me for the rest of my days&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Harrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the praise Sam, but really -- it&#039;s not all that hard to write a good review when you&#039;re dealing with a masterpiece of a film. :)

Alexander, I agree that Reed isn&#039;t really engaging in &quot;Nietzschean posturing&quot; -- I was merely using that as a bit of shorthand. Your allusion to &quot;Nietzschean gobbledygook&quot; is, admittedly, much more apt. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the praise Sam, but really &#8212; it&#8217;s not all that hard to write a good review when you&#8217;re dealing with a masterpiece of a film. <img src='http://www.moviezeal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Alexander, I agree that Reed isn&#8217;t really engaging in &#8220;Nietzschean posturing&#8221; &#8212; I was merely using that as a bit of shorthand. Your allusion to &#8220;Nietzschean gobbledygook&#8221; is, admittedly, much more apt. <img src='http://www.moviezeal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ive seen this film probably twenty-five times or more.&quot;

   I have seen THE THIRD MAN well over 60 times in my life, including no less than six times at NYC film festivals of various focus and I agree it does indeed keep getting better and better!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ive seen this film probably twenty-five times or more.&#8221;</p>
<p>   I have seen THE THIRD MAN well over 60 times in my life, including no less than six times at NYC film festivals of various focus and I agree it does indeed keep getting better and better!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very strong, well-written review, Luke--I&#039;ve seen this film probably twenty-five times or more, and it just gets better and better. I almost literally think, after every fresh viewing, &quot;Jeez, it&#039;s even &lt;i&gt;better&lt;/i&gt; than I thought it was.&quot; 

It&#039;s a highly political picture. I&#039;d say rather than engaging in Nietzschean posturing, Reed merely allows Lime to spout pseudo-Nietzschean gobbledy-gook, which makes his comeuppance all the more appropriate (though it&#039;s hardly a celebratory moment, either, as you note). 

Graham Greene&#039;s writing is so wonderful and his story so beautiful, and without that &lt;i&gt;The Third Man&lt;/i&gt; couldn&#039;t exist--though as lovely as Greene&#039;s work is, the film adaptation is a rarity that manages to be superior to the source material (all the more rare when adapting from such a sagacious novelist, though it doubtless helped to have Greene adapt his own novel into such a fine screenplay).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very strong, well-written review, Luke&#8211;I&#8217;ve seen this film probably twenty-five times or more, and it just gets better and better. I almost literally think, after every fresh viewing, &#8220;Jeez, it&#8217;s even <i>better</i> than I thought it was.&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a highly political picture. I&#8217;d say rather than engaging in Nietzschean posturing, Reed merely allows Lime to spout pseudo-Nietzschean gobbledy-gook, which makes his comeuppance all the more appropriate (though it&#8217;s hardly a celebratory moment, either, as you note). </p>
<p>Graham Greene&#8217;s writing is so wonderful and his story so beautiful, and without that <i>The Third Man</i> couldn&#8217;t exist&#8211;though as lovely as Greene&#8217;s work is, the film adaptation is a rarity that manages to be superior to the source material (all the more rare when adapting from such a sagacious novelist, though it doubtless helped to have Greene adapt his own novel into such a fine screenplay).</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an altogether extraordinary treatment of THE THIRD MAN, by Luke Harrington--unquestionably one of the best in the entire Movie Zeal Film Noir series.  THE THIRD MAN is my choice as the greatest British film of all-time, a position I am always ready to defend, but Mr. Harrington&#039;s astute and scholarly consideration of the film, fully rooted in context and filmic artistry could be the object of serious study.  Movie Zeal has really come of age with this fascinating series, and today is one of the high watermarks.
     Prime example of the extraordinary essay:

&quot;Nietzschean posturing&quot;

&quot;the motif of resurection&quot; owning more to Marx.........

&quot;In a paradox that the human race is never likely to come to terms with, it&#039;s almost exclusively times of hardship that produces great art.&quot;

&quot;Reed throwing a Dutch angle........&quot;

&quot;Lime is the quintessential &#039;ubermensch&#039; possessing no morals or ethics to speak of, controlling everyone around him.&quot;

&quot;Gone are the ubiquitous shadows and the menacing music; in their place is a slow-burning, meticulous sense of craft that manages a historical and political resonance rarely seen within the genre.  The end result is nothing short of transcendent.&quot;

    What can I say, this is top-rank--you can&#039;t expect Movie Zeal to do any better than this, to go any further.  This is a treatment for the ages.  Congratulations Luke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an altogether extraordinary treatment of THE THIRD MAN, by Luke Harrington&#8211;unquestionably one of the best in the entire Movie Zeal Film Noir series.  THE THIRD MAN is my choice as the greatest British film of all-time, a position I am always ready to defend, but Mr. Harrington&#8217;s astute and scholarly consideration of the film, fully rooted in context and filmic artistry could be the object of serious study.  Movie Zeal has really come of age with this fascinating series, and today is one of the high watermarks.<br />
     Prime example of the extraordinary essay:</p>
<p>&#8220;Nietzschean posturing&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;the motif of resurection&#8221; owning more to Marx&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;In a paradox that the human race is never likely to come to terms with, it&#8217;s almost exclusively times of hardship that produces great art.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Reed throwing a Dutch angle&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Lime is the quintessential &#8216;ubermensch&#8217; possessing no morals or ethics to speak of, controlling everyone around him.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Gone are the ubiquitous shadows and the menacing music; in their place is a slow-burning, meticulous sense of craft that manages a historical and political resonance rarely seen within the genre.  The end result is nothing short of transcendent.&#8221;</p>
<p>    What can I say, this is top-rank&#8211;you can&#8217;t expect Movie Zeal to do any better than this, to go any further.  This is a treatment for the ages.  Congratulations Luke!</p>
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		<title>By: Cinexcellence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cinexcellence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta love that finale. I&#039;m gonna have to rewatch this one.</description>
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		<title>By: Luke Harrington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Harrington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really is a film that gets better with every viewing. The first time I watched it I could barely even keep up with the plot (mysteries and I don&#039;t get along very well)...then a week later a lightbulb went on and I said, &quot;Wow! That film was brilliant!&quot; That seems to happen to me a lot...I&#039;m pretty clueless.

I totally agree about the encounter Rick...it&#039;s really the sort of thing you can&#039;t get out of your head for weeks after watching the film. (On the other hand, I can&#039;t help but hear a Hollywood producer going, &quot;Come on, Carol-baby, can&#039;t you throw in some gun shots and an explosion?&quot;...yeesh.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really is a film that gets better with every viewing. The first time I watched it I could barely even keep up with the plot (mysteries and I don&#8217;t get along very well)&#8230;then a week later a lightbulb went on and I said, &#8220;Wow! That film was brilliant!&#8221; That seems to happen to me a lot&#8230;I&#8217;m pretty clueless.</p>
<p>I totally agree about the encounter Rick&#8230;it&#8217;s really the sort of thing you can&#8217;t get out of your head for weeks after watching the film. (On the other hand, I can&#8217;t help but hear a Hollywood producer going, &#8220;Come on, Carol-baby, can&#8217;t you throw in some gun shots and an explosion?&#8221;&#8230;yeesh.)</p>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember watching this for the first time a few months ago and not being very impressed with it at all other than loving Orson Welles and thinking the score was kooky.

I watched it again the other night and called myself crazy.  I must have been having a bad day when I first watched it, because this film is a masterpiece.  Pure and simple.  Great review, Luke -- the Welles quote is perfect.</description>
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<p>I watched it again the other night and called myself crazy.  I must have been having a bad day when I first watched it, because this film is a masterpiece.  Pure and simple.  Great review, Luke &#8212; the Welles quote is perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Olson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fine review for a fabulous film.  It&#039;s the one, I think, that first awakened me to the possibilities of noir.  My favorite scene is when Matins confronts Lime for the first time on that pitch-black street.  Is there any better-choreographed encounter, or any more iconic entrance than Welles&#039; amused, eyebrow-raised smirk?

I think you&#039;re right about Martins ... it&#039;s an &quot;ugly American&quot; performance, we&#039;re not supposed to like him very much, which makes the film all the more disturbing.  There&#039;s nobody we like all that much to root for.  We end up rooting for Harry, in spite of the horrible things he&#039;s done, in spite of Nietzschean outlook.  What a great film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine review for a fabulous film.  It&#8217;s the one, I think, that first awakened me to the possibilities of noir.  My favorite scene is when Matins confronts Lime for the first time on that pitch-black street.  Is there any better-choreographed encounter, or any more iconic entrance than Welles&#8217; amused, eyebrow-raised smirk?</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right about Martins &#8230; it&#8217;s an &#8220;ugly American&#8221; performance, we&#8217;re not supposed to like him very much, which makes the film all the more disturbing.  There&#8217;s nobody we like all that much to root for.  We end up rooting for Harry, in spite of the horrible things he&#8217;s done, in spite of Nietzschean outlook.  What a great film.</p>
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